The Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses are the Same Organization
Zionist control runs deep, but dna evidence has now proven,that the indian people mormons believe came from israel and are the orginal inhabitants of north america are actually from asia.
This is yet another example of zionist infiltration as they seek global control.
The Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses are the Same Organization
by David Icke
It's amazing how everything fits together in the world of the Illuminati if you are prepared to dig deep enough.
The people and organisations who attack and abuse each other in public, or appear to be in competition, turn out over and over to be different masks on the same face. Take the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses (if we must).
We are told they are different organisations which stand for different "beliefs" and the followers of both would be aghast at the thought that they could be connected in any way. But then the mass of unthinking followers in any religion are merely the fodder and the screen behind which the real business goes on.
The founders of both "faiths", the Mormons and JWs, were of the Illuminati bloodline. Charles Taze Russell, who founded the Watchtower Society (JWs), was of the Illuminati Russell bloodline, which also founded the infamous Skull and Bones Society at Yale University. Charles Taze Russell was a Satanist, a paedophile according to his wife, and a friend of the Rothschilds. Indeed it was the Rothschilds who funded the Jehovah's Witness operation into being, along with other Illuminati bankers, through "contributions" by organisations like the Rothschild-controlled B'nai B'rith. This was proved in a court of law in 1922. One of the key people involved in this was Frank Goldman who later became President of B'nai B'rith. Why would an organisation set up (in theory) to help Jewish people and promote the Jewish faith, be funding into existence the Jehovah's Witnesses?? I think the name Rothschild answers the question. Russell was also a high degree Freemason and Knights Templar. He promoted Zionism, another Rothschild creation (see Was Hitler a Rothschild), on behalf of his friends and backers.
Joseph Smith, along with Hiram Smith and Brigham Young, were the key figures behind the creation of the Mormon religion. They were of the elite of the elite Illuminati bloodline, the Merovingian or "Holy Grail" line, and were all high degree Freemasons. They were also Satanists and formed their "church" as a front for Satanic activity which very much still goes on today. Why wouldn't it, that is what it is there for. The Mormon empire was funded into existence by the Rothschilds through their Kuhn, Loeb, bank which also funded the Russian Revolution and Adolf Hitler, and yet again B'nai Brith, the Rothschild intelligence arm and defamer of genuine researchers, was involved.
Notice any similarities between the last two paragraphs??
Again the followers of these mind control cults would be shocked to think that the upper levels of these "religions" would engage in Satanic activity and human sacrifice of children, but it is about time they knew.
Russell's family was formerly known as Roessel and went to Scotland from Germany. Of course, Germany is a massive occult centre, from which the Rothschilds emerged, and Scotland is one of the key areas of the world for Illuminati bloodlines. From the start, Charles Taze Russell used his new Watchtower Society, based at Bethel, Brooklyn, New York, as a front for black magic, or Enochian magic as his brand of Satanism was called. He put the flying Sun disk on the front of his books, an ancient Illuminati symbol going back to Egypt and Babylon. The Watchtower magazine has always been a mass of subliminal and less subliminal occult symbolism and the very name, Watchtower, is part of Illuminati and Freemasonic legend and code. To them watchtowers are areas of the "magical universe". The unseen realms. Russell was buried under a pyramid in the United States after being ritually killed on Halloween 1917. These leading Satanists of the Illuminati are ritually killed when their time comes in line with their obsession with ritual. To them, everything is ritual. Again and again the Jehovah's Witness church is named by survivors of trauma-based mind control as being involved in these unspeakable mind control projects.
The Mormons were also created as a front for Satanism and, like the Watchtower Society, Enochian magic.When I spoke in Salt Lake City near to the Mormon Temple, I came across the fascinating book by William J. Schnoebelen called Mormonism's Temple of Doom. Schnoebelen was initiated into the Wicca religion, then into Freemasonry, before going through the Mormon initiation in the Salt Lake temple. He shows in great detail that all three initiations were the same. The same oaths, secret handshakes, and garb. Of course they are. We are looking at one face here hidden by many masks. The Salt Lake temple is covered with Illuminati symbols, like the All Seeing Eye, and it is built with granite, a rock which has been used throughout the ages for temples on earth power centres and for esoteric initiation. The Mormons also use the bee symbol, a classic symbol of the Merovingian bloodine which people like the author, Sir Laurence Gardner, want to kid us goes back to "Jesus" when in fact it is the "Holy Grail" bloodline of the Illuminati, the "purest" reptilian line. Joseph Smith carried a dove medallion given to him by an English masonic lodge. The dove is Illuminati symbolism for Queen Semiramis, the female deity in their Babylonian trinity. The Mormon Church, like the Watchtower Society, is also a front for trauma-based mind control. Many survivors have told of their horrific torture in Salt Lake City in Mormon buildings and centres. The Mormon genealogy operation is also a front behind which the Illuminati keep track of the reptilian bloodline, who has it to a "pure" enough level and who has not.
You won't be surprised to know, therefore, that the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses are the same organisation at the top level where the Elders of the Mormons and the leaders of the Watchtower Society operate a very different agenda to the one their followers believe. But what chance have you got of knowing what is happening within your "church" when you refuse to think or question? "Have faith", the mantra of these religious con-men through the ages, really means "Don't think and don't question." I was taken around the Mormon temple site (not the temple which is only for initiates) by two lovely girls from Thailand and Hong Kong. They had worked their asses off for years to pay their own fare to America and to pay for their own accommodation and living expenses for the privilege of serving this unbelievably wealthy organisation, as "guides" (recruiters) for the faith. On the way round, I asked them what they thought the significance was of the founders of the Mormon church all being high degree Freemasons. They looked at each other for a moment in bewilderment and then one said: "What's Freemasonry?"
And a few can't control the world??
I want to give people the opportunity here to tell their stories about the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses - and any other religious fronts - both to expose what is happening and to give people still in those "faiths" the chance to see what is really going on around them. If you want to contribute your experiences on these subjects please sent them to this website and we will start a new archive if there is a big enough response. You may have seen two contributions about the Watchtower society already.
Have faith!
DAVID ICKE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Discussion by former Mormons
Joseph Smith, along with Hiram Smith and Brigham Young, were the key figures behind the creation of the Mormon religion. They were of the elite of the elite Illuminati bloodline, the Merovingian or "Holy Grail" line, and were all high degree Freemasons.
JJ
This much is true. The Mormons also use the bee symbol, a classic symbol of the Merovingian bloodine.
JJ
Yes, we must beware of those evil bees.
EdNote Bees are the identifier of that line.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
David Icke
Golden Bees
Hi David,
Your Children of the Matrix is Excellent! On pg 81, you mention that the bee is a Merovingian symbol. The bee symbol is one of the Mormon's signatures. The hive with bees flying around is found on doorknobs in some of the Mormon temples, at Brigham Young University in Utah and is the design for many Utah government functions. The Utah state police has a bee hive on the sides of their cars. Since, as you state, Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are part of the line, I'm not surprised.
Best,
Glenn
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Posted by Otremer on July 09, 1998
An Irish friend once told me of an old Irish legend that maintained that the Tuatha de Danna, the people who preceeded the Milesian Celts into Ireland, were actually the Tribe of Dan. Well, the time frame is about right for the Jewish diaspora, but the Tuatha de Danna, as their name implies, were the children of the Goddess Danu who was often symbolised by the moon. That doesn't sound very Jewish until one recalls Lilith, the first wife of Adam and "the origional uppity Jewish woman" as some of my Pagan Jewish friends characterize her. Returning to my Irish friend, he added that the totem for the tribe of Dan was the honey bee, just as the tribe of Judah had the lion at their totem.
His mention of the honey bee made me think not only of the Mormon Church that seems throughly infatuated with the honey bee (Deseret, Beehive State, etc.) but also had a rather unpleasant group called the Dannites or Sons of Dan. Is there a connection here? Just what is the point of all the honey bee symbolism with the Mormon Church? I suspect, what with the Dannites included, there's more to it than just "industry" as a Mormon Bishop once told me. Just as a matter of interest, the honey bee seems to have been of symbolic importance to many folks. The last Merovingian ruler of the Franks (Dagobert II, I believe) was buried in a cape studded with golden honey bees. Some suspect that he was actually killed by his successor, Pepin, who founded the Carolingian dynasty, as at the time of his death the Merovingians were fueding with Rome over the rite of coronation and were shopping around for a new church.
The Merovingians maintained that they were of a royal lineage that antedated the Roman Catholic Church, and there fore did not need to be coronated by the church. The Carolingians gladly accepted the Roman Catholic rite and remained within that church. Dagobert and his honey bees remained undisturbed in the grave until the scheduled coronation of Napoleon as Emperor of France. Napoleon had the honey bees removed from Dagobert's tomb and placed on his cape for the coronation. It will be recalled that Napoleon also saw fit to remove the crown from the Bishop's hands and place it on his own head, thus showing that he, like the Merovingians, did not neet the recognition of the Roman Catholic Church. I told this tale to a person of Irish descent who found it most illuminating as her family is also Jewish.
She's quite secular, but she recalled that when she got married, her Jewish grandmother came from Ireland and embroidered honey bees around the hem of her wedding dress. At the time she just thought it was grandmother's touch of decoration. After I told her about the Tuatha de Danna and the honey bees, she asked her mother about it. All her mother could say was that the honey bee was part of an old family crest. One final related question: Does the Mormon Church still have Dannites? I've seen at least one former Mormon state that he had received threats from Dannites.
Thank's to any one who's taken the time to read this, and blessings to anyone who will tell me what, if anything is so special about the honey bee and the Tribe of Dan to the Mormon Church.
Otremer
source: http://www.exmormon.org/boards/honestboard/messages/997.html
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The "golden bees"cover Napoleon's coat (see red circles) and they are an emblem which can be traced through a royal bloodline in Europe still visible on crests and other artifacts in European cathedrals and museums. The bloodline is called the "holy bloodline." Participants are supposedly "sacred lineage" which descended from Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ (invented by men) and their ultimate goal is world government. The Legend of the Merovian Bees goes as far back as 447 to 458 A.D. beginning with Merovee, king of Franks who was an adherent of the religous cult of Diana. He had a small red cross on his chest. His son, Childeric I practiced witchcraft and his son, Clovis I, adopted Christianity in 496 A.D. During that year, due to his faltering church, Bishop of Rome (the pope) made a pact with Clovis, the grandson of Merovee, to call him the "New Constantine," giving him authority over a "Christianized " Roman empire. (The term "Holy Roman Empire" was not officially used until 962 A.D..)
source: http://www.cephasministry.com/napoleons_connection_to_the_holy_roman_empire.html
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The Order of Merit of the Kingdom Holland (Orde van Verdienste van het Koninkrijk Holland) was instituted in December 1806. It was to consist of 50 Commanders and 300 Knights but only 294 Knightcrosses were awarded (all on 1 January 1807) before the Order was abolished and replaced by the Royal Order of Holland. The badge is a cross of eight points, the diagonal arms being shorter than the horizontal and vertical ones. A gold pearl is placed at the top of each of the points. Between the arms of the cross are golden bees (eight in total - the bee is also seen in the coat-of-arms of the Bonapartes). On the center of the cross is a medallion bearing the effigy of Louis Napoleon surrounded by a broad green enamel circle with the legend "LODEWYK I. KONING VAN HOLLAND" (Louis I. King of Holland). The reverse shows the Lion of The Netherlands with the circular legend "DOE WEL EN ZIE NIET OM" ("Be Good and don't look back", the King's personal motto). The cross was surmounted by a Royal Crown and hung from a sea green ribbon.
source: http://members.nbci.com/ODMW/Holland/holland.htm
http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/articles/bees.html
This is yet another example of zionist infiltration as they seek global control.
The Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses are the Same Organization
by David Icke
It's amazing how everything fits together in the world of the Illuminati if you are prepared to dig deep enough.
The people and organisations who attack and abuse each other in public, or appear to be in competition, turn out over and over to be different masks on the same face. Take the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses (if we must).
We are told they are different organisations which stand for different "beliefs" and the followers of both would be aghast at the thought that they could be connected in any way. But then the mass of unthinking followers in any religion are merely the fodder and the screen behind which the real business goes on.
The founders of both "faiths", the Mormons and JWs, were of the Illuminati bloodline. Charles Taze Russell, who founded the Watchtower Society (JWs), was of the Illuminati Russell bloodline, which also founded the infamous Skull and Bones Society at Yale University. Charles Taze Russell was a Satanist, a paedophile according to his wife, and a friend of the Rothschilds. Indeed it was the Rothschilds who funded the Jehovah's Witness operation into being, along with other Illuminati bankers, through "contributions" by organisations like the Rothschild-controlled B'nai B'rith. This was proved in a court of law in 1922. One of the key people involved in this was Frank Goldman who later became President of B'nai B'rith. Why would an organisation set up (in theory) to help Jewish people and promote the Jewish faith, be funding into existence the Jehovah's Witnesses?? I think the name Rothschild answers the question. Russell was also a high degree Freemason and Knights Templar. He promoted Zionism, another Rothschild creation (see Was Hitler a Rothschild), on behalf of his friends and backers.
Joseph Smith, along with Hiram Smith and Brigham Young, were the key figures behind the creation of the Mormon religion. They were of the elite of the elite Illuminati bloodline, the Merovingian or "Holy Grail" line, and were all high degree Freemasons. They were also Satanists and formed their "church" as a front for Satanic activity which very much still goes on today. Why wouldn't it, that is what it is there for. The Mormon empire was funded into existence by the Rothschilds through their Kuhn, Loeb, bank which also funded the Russian Revolution and Adolf Hitler, and yet again B'nai Brith, the Rothschild intelligence arm and defamer of genuine researchers, was involved.
Notice any similarities between the last two paragraphs??
Again the followers of these mind control cults would be shocked to think that the upper levels of these "religions" would engage in Satanic activity and human sacrifice of children, but it is about time they knew.
Russell's family was formerly known as Roessel and went to Scotland from Germany. Of course, Germany is a massive occult centre, from which the Rothschilds emerged, and Scotland is one of the key areas of the world for Illuminati bloodlines. From the start, Charles Taze Russell used his new Watchtower Society, based at Bethel, Brooklyn, New York, as a front for black magic, or Enochian magic as his brand of Satanism was called. He put the flying Sun disk on the front of his books, an ancient Illuminati symbol going back to Egypt and Babylon. The Watchtower magazine has always been a mass of subliminal and less subliminal occult symbolism and the very name, Watchtower, is part of Illuminati and Freemasonic legend and code. To them watchtowers are areas of the "magical universe". The unseen realms. Russell was buried under a pyramid in the United States after being ritually killed on Halloween 1917. These leading Satanists of the Illuminati are ritually killed when their time comes in line with their obsession with ritual. To them, everything is ritual. Again and again the Jehovah's Witness church is named by survivors of trauma-based mind control as being involved in these unspeakable mind control projects.
The Mormons were also created as a front for Satanism and, like the Watchtower Society, Enochian magic.When I spoke in Salt Lake City near to the Mormon Temple, I came across the fascinating book by William J. Schnoebelen called Mormonism's Temple of Doom. Schnoebelen was initiated into the Wicca religion, then into Freemasonry, before going through the Mormon initiation in the Salt Lake temple. He shows in great detail that all three initiations were the same. The same oaths, secret handshakes, and garb. Of course they are. We are looking at one face here hidden by many masks. The Salt Lake temple is covered with Illuminati symbols, like the All Seeing Eye, and it is built with granite, a rock which has been used throughout the ages for temples on earth power centres and for esoteric initiation. The Mormons also use the bee symbol, a classic symbol of the Merovingian bloodine which people like the author, Sir Laurence Gardner, want to kid us goes back to "Jesus" when in fact it is the "Holy Grail" bloodline of the Illuminati, the "purest" reptilian line. Joseph Smith carried a dove medallion given to him by an English masonic lodge. The dove is Illuminati symbolism for Queen Semiramis, the female deity in their Babylonian trinity. The Mormon Church, like the Watchtower Society, is also a front for trauma-based mind control. Many survivors have told of their horrific torture in Salt Lake City in Mormon buildings and centres. The Mormon genealogy operation is also a front behind which the Illuminati keep track of the reptilian bloodline, who has it to a "pure" enough level and who has not.
You won't be surprised to know, therefore, that the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses are the same organisation at the top level where the Elders of the Mormons and the leaders of the Watchtower Society operate a very different agenda to the one their followers believe. But what chance have you got of knowing what is happening within your "church" when you refuse to think or question? "Have faith", the mantra of these religious con-men through the ages, really means "Don't think and don't question." I was taken around the Mormon temple site (not the temple which is only for initiates) by two lovely girls from Thailand and Hong Kong. They had worked their asses off for years to pay their own fare to America and to pay for their own accommodation and living expenses for the privilege of serving this unbelievably wealthy organisation, as "guides" (recruiters) for the faith. On the way round, I asked them what they thought the significance was of the founders of the Mormon church all being high degree Freemasons. They looked at each other for a moment in bewilderment and then one said: "What's Freemasonry?"
And a few can't control the world??
I want to give people the opportunity here to tell their stories about the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses - and any other religious fronts - both to expose what is happening and to give people still in those "faiths" the chance to see what is really going on around them. If you want to contribute your experiences on these subjects please sent them to this website and we will start a new archive if there is a big enough response. You may have seen two contributions about the Watchtower society already.
Have faith!
DAVID ICKE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Discussion by former Mormons
Joseph Smith, along with Hiram Smith and Brigham Young, were the key figures behind the creation of the Mormon religion. They were of the elite of the elite Illuminati bloodline, the Merovingian or "Holy Grail" line, and were all high degree Freemasons.
JJ
This much is true. The Mormons also use the bee symbol, a classic symbol of the Merovingian bloodine.
JJ
Yes, we must beware of those evil bees.
EdNote Bees are the identifier of that line.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
David Icke
Golden Bees
Hi David,
Your Children of the Matrix is Excellent! On pg 81, you mention that the bee is a Merovingian symbol. The bee symbol is one of the Mormon's signatures. The hive with bees flying around is found on doorknobs in some of the Mormon temples, at Brigham Young University in Utah and is the design for many Utah government functions. The Utah state police has a bee hive on the sides of their cars. Since, as you state, Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are part of the line, I'm not surprised.
Best,
Glenn
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted by Otremer on July 09, 1998
An Irish friend once told me of an old Irish legend that maintained that the Tuatha de Danna, the people who preceeded the Milesian Celts into Ireland, were actually the Tribe of Dan. Well, the time frame is about right for the Jewish diaspora, but the Tuatha de Danna, as their name implies, were the children of the Goddess Danu who was often symbolised by the moon. That doesn't sound very Jewish until one recalls Lilith, the first wife of Adam and "the origional uppity Jewish woman" as some of my Pagan Jewish friends characterize her. Returning to my Irish friend, he added that the totem for the tribe of Dan was the honey bee, just as the tribe of Judah had the lion at their totem.
His mention of the honey bee made me think not only of the Mormon Church that seems throughly infatuated with the honey bee (Deseret, Beehive State, etc.) but also had a rather unpleasant group called the Dannites or Sons of Dan. Is there a connection here? Just what is the point of all the honey bee symbolism with the Mormon Church? I suspect, what with the Dannites included, there's more to it than just "industry" as a Mormon Bishop once told me. Just as a matter of interest, the honey bee seems to have been of symbolic importance to many folks. The last Merovingian ruler of the Franks (Dagobert II, I believe) was buried in a cape studded with golden honey bees. Some suspect that he was actually killed by his successor, Pepin, who founded the Carolingian dynasty, as at the time of his death the Merovingians were fueding with Rome over the rite of coronation and were shopping around for a new church.
The Merovingians maintained that they were of a royal lineage that antedated the Roman Catholic Church, and there fore did not need to be coronated by the church. The Carolingians gladly accepted the Roman Catholic rite and remained within that church. Dagobert and his honey bees remained undisturbed in the grave until the scheduled coronation of Napoleon as Emperor of France. Napoleon had the honey bees removed from Dagobert's tomb and placed on his cape for the coronation. It will be recalled that Napoleon also saw fit to remove the crown from the Bishop's hands and place it on his own head, thus showing that he, like the Merovingians, did not neet the recognition of the Roman Catholic Church. I told this tale to a person of Irish descent who found it most illuminating as her family is also Jewish.
She's quite secular, but she recalled that when she got married, her Jewish grandmother came from Ireland and embroidered honey bees around the hem of her wedding dress. At the time she just thought it was grandmother's touch of decoration. After I told her about the Tuatha de Danna and the honey bees, she asked her mother about it. All her mother could say was that the honey bee was part of an old family crest. One final related question: Does the Mormon Church still have Dannites? I've seen at least one former Mormon state that he had received threats from Dannites.
Thank's to any one who's taken the time to read this, and blessings to anyone who will tell me what, if anything is so special about the honey bee and the Tribe of Dan to the Mormon Church.
Otremer
source: http://www.exmormon.org/boards/honestboard/messages/997.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The "golden bees"cover Napoleon's coat (see red circles) and they are an emblem which can be traced through a royal bloodline in Europe still visible on crests and other artifacts in European cathedrals and museums. The bloodline is called the "holy bloodline." Participants are supposedly "sacred lineage" which descended from Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ (invented by men) and their ultimate goal is world government. The Legend of the Merovian Bees goes as far back as 447 to 458 A.D. beginning with Merovee, king of Franks who was an adherent of the religous cult of Diana. He had a small red cross on his chest. His son, Childeric I practiced witchcraft and his son, Clovis I, adopted Christianity in 496 A.D. During that year, due to his faltering church, Bishop of Rome (the pope) made a pact with Clovis, the grandson of Merovee, to call him the "New Constantine," giving him authority over a "Christianized " Roman empire. (The term "Holy Roman Empire" was not officially used until 962 A.D..)
source: http://www.cephasministry.com/napoleons_connection_to_the_holy_roman_empire.html
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The Order of Merit of the Kingdom Holland (Orde van Verdienste van het Koninkrijk Holland) was instituted in December 1806. It was to consist of 50 Commanders and 300 Knights but only 294 Knightcrosses were awarded (all on 1 January 1807) before the Order was abolished and replaced by the Royal Order of Holland. The badge is a cross of eight points, the diagonal arms being shorter than the horizontal and vertical ones. A gold pearl is placed at the top of each of the points. Between the arms of the cross are golden bees (eight in total - the bee is also seen in the coat-of-arms of the Bonapartes). On the center of the cross is a medallion bearing the effigy of Louis Napoleon surrounded by a broad green enamel circle with the legend "LODEWYK I. KONING VAN HOLLAND" (Louis I. King of Holland). The reverse shows the Lion of The Netherlands with the circular legend "DOE WEL EN ZIE NIET OM" ("Be Good and don't look back", the King's personal motto). The cross was surmounted by a Royal Crown and hung from a sea green ribbon.
source: http://members.nbci.com/ODMW/Holland/holland.htm
http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/articles/bees.html
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